“You can’t talk about anything for long and briefly, and as I said, after these talks, nothing should be expected but the confirmation of America’s soft approach and Russia’s firm approach,” said Jacek Saryusz-Wolski (PiS), MEP. In an interview with wPolityce.pl the upcoming meeting between US President Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin.

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wPolityce.pl: Former US Ambassador to Poland Daniel Fried said that the Biden-Putin summit will not be in Yalta again. Do you share this opinion?

Jacek Sarios Volsky: Literally, no, but in the sense that after the release of Nord Stream 2, the United States gave Russia the green light to take more decisive, not to mention aggressive, measures in the CEE region, but above all in the Eastern Partnership region, that is, the eastern neighborhood of the European Union, That’s it. It also depends on how we use this “Yalta” reference, figuratively or literally.

In your opinion, what should be expected from these conversations?

nothing special. First, US expectations are minimal. This was called strategic stability. But basically, given all the concessions already made before the meeting itself, the strengths of the two sides are very unequal. The American side is much weaker than the Russian side, so no significant and substantive results can be expected. Beyond trying – this is the intention of the American side to stop the further deterioration of these relations. However, it is not at all clear whether the Russian side is interested in something like this. I would like to go further and say that the Russian side, the Kremlin, is in a state of inflamed and confrontational relations, because this strengthens the strength of the Kremlin inside the country, and this is extremely important. Also, the more it recedes, the more conciliatory and conciliatory the behavior and words of the West are, and in this American case, the greater the Russian side, according to what it is. interests, escalate and create provocations or tensions, because it achieves two goals: the front line moves towards the other side for its own benefit, and secondly, it scores points in the internal Russian political arena, presenting itself to his society as a magician. Putin can push defensively and win with America or play America or the West. This is also a slippery slope and a trap set up by the Kremlin, which, unfortunately, suits the Washington administration and to some extent also Western European policy towards Russia, such a soft approach.

Is the fact that President Joe Biden has been in Geneva since Tuesday and is actually waiting for Vladimir Putin to be demoted when he comes to the table?

First, Putin will be waiting for Biden in this villa overlooking Lake Geneva. And who, when he came to Switzerland, seems to me to read the fortune-telling of such technical details and the circumstances of this meeting, a false effect. What matters is the content, not this kind of attempt to draw conclusions from who came and where.

These talks are expected to last about five hours.

Four to six. It is supposed.

Does this prove that both presidents want to resolve some issues once and for all? Or shouldn’t specific decisions be expected?

They want to give themselves a chance to discuss all the topics that both parties want to raise and not be under the pressure of time. this is normal. These meetings are not half an hour or even an hour, but negotiations cannot be conducted from them on the content of the talks. One cannot speak of anything too long and briefly of substance, and, as I have already said, nothing should be expected but an affirmation of America’s soft approach and Russia’s firm approach.

Thank you for the conversation.

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